AMBROSE, JOHN JAMES WILLIAM


Source

CWGC

SDGW

Uttoxeter Advertiser

Other

Parents

George Ambrose




8g

Annie Ambrose




8g

Where born

Burton on Trent Staffordshire


Yes


3 4a 4b 5 7 8c

When born

About 1884

Yes




Jan-Feb-Mar 1885




7

About December 1884






About 1889




4a

Address

His wife lived at 16 Cheadle Road, Uttoxeter.

Yes


1b

3 8b 8d 8e

16 Cheadle Road, Uttoxeter




8a

Uttoxeter




5

The Wharf, Uttoxeter



1a


Spouse

Henrietta Shigsley Ambrose, of 16 Cheadle Road, Uttoxeter

Yes



3 8g

Henrietta Ambrose




8e

Harriet Shipley Ambrose




8b

Children

John William Ambrose, born in Uttoxeter on 17th March 1900




8b 8g

Frederick George Ambrose, born in Uttoxeter on 21st October 1912




8b 8g

Employment Before Joining up

Lamplighter at Uttoxeter




1a


Labourer





8a 8c

When Enlisted

24th Feb 1915




8a 8b

Where Enlisted

Lichfield, Staffordshire


Yes


5 8a 8b

Regiment

North Staffordshire (Prince of Wales’s)

Yes

Yes


3 5 6 8a 8b 8d 8e 8g

Unit

7th Bn

Yes

Yes


3 5 6 8d 8e

7th Service Bn




3

Rank

Private


Yes

1a 1b

5 8b 8d 8e 8g

Service Number

16959

Yes

Yes


3 5 6 8a 8d 8e 8g

Date of Death

20th April 1916

Yes

Yes

1a 1b

3 5

Presumed 20th April 1916




6 8b 8c

Age at time of death

31

Yes




Where Killed or died

Mesopotamia (Iraq)



1b

5

Asiatic Theatres




5

Sanni-I-Yat, Mesopotamia



1a

3


How he died

Missing



1a 1b

8b 8c

Killed in Action Previously Missing




8e

Killed in Action


Yes

1a 1b

5

Dearth Presumed




8b 8c

Location of Grave or Memorial

No known grave – commemorated on the Basra Memorial, Panel 34

Yes




Awards

Victory Medal: Roll F/104 B7 Page 687




6

British Medal: Roll F/104 B7 Page 687




6

1915 Star: Roll 15/5 B4 Page 325




6

Photograph with kind permission of the Uttoxeter Advertiser


John Ambrose appears to have grown up in Wolverhampton. His father was a Brewer’s labourer and the 1891 Census and other sources furnish the following details about him and his parents:



Name  

Relationship

Age

Where born

1891 Census

1901 Census

Thomas Ambrose

Head of the household

26

Born about 1865, hence age about 36

Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire

Frances K (or H?)

Wife

27

Born about 1864, hence age about 37

London (Clapham)

John W. Ambrose

Son

2

Born about 1889, hence age about 12

Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire

Thomas Ambrose

Son

 Not born yet Born

Son about 1892, hence age about 9

Wolverhampton, Staffordshire

They were living at 95 Beacon Street, Wolverhampton in 1889 and: in 1901 they were still living in Wolverhampton.

Before the war, John married Henrietta Shigsley. He was a lamplighter at Uttoxeter and a labourer and they lived at 16 Cheadle Road, Uttoxeter, with their two children:

John William Ambrose, born in Uttoxeter on 17th March 1900

Frederick George Ambrose, born in Uttoxeter on 21st October 1912


John joined-up on the 24th of February 1915 at Lichfield. He was 30 years and two months old and expressed a willingness to be enlisted for general service. He enlisted for the duration of the war, but agreed to be retained for a maximum of six months after hostilities ceased until his services could be spared.

His army medical examination took place on 20th February 1915 at Lichfield. The record from this medical shows that he was 133lbs in weight and 5 feet 7½ inches tall and his chest measurement was 35inches when fully expanded (range of expansion 2 inches). He had perfect vision in both eyes.


At the time of his enlistment his two children were aged 14 years 11 months (John) and 2 years 4 months (Frederick).

John’s service record appears in his Pension Records in the National Archives, but parts of it are faint and difficult to decipher. The following is our best attempt at interpreting it:


Corps in which served

Regt or Depot

Promotions, Reductions, Casualties

Army Rank

Dates

Service not allowed to reckon for fixing the rate of Pension

Service in Reserve not allowed to reckon towards G.C. Pay

years

 days

years

days

Service towards limited engagement reckons from 24 Feb 1915 Joined at Lichfield on 24.2.1915

N. Staffs

D

Posted

Pvte[?] [Private?]

24th Feb 1915





..

3rd

 ..

..

4th Mar 1915





Med Ex Force


Transferred Posted

..

28th Aug 1915





Home


24th Feb 1915

to

27th Aug 1915


185



Med Ex Force


28th Aug 1915

to

30th Mar 1916


215

1

56

Med Ex Force


31st  Mar 1916

to

Xx Apr 1916


21





Wounded


20th Apr 1916

1

56





Missing


20th Apr 1916






7th

Death Presumed

Pte

20th Apr 1916







M.E.F.







According to the Uttoxeter Advertiser he took part in the fighting at the Dardanelles (Gallipoli) before going to Mesopotamia. This is confirmed by the record on his Medal Record Card, which says that he first served in the Balkans, arriving prior to 1st July 1916.

In February 1916 the Uttoxeter Advertiser reported that they had received a letter from him. He was in the 7th North Staffordshire Regiment and said in his letter that he was pleased to hear that so many from Uttoxeter were “doing their bit for King and Country”. He also reflected that there were still a lot of young able-bodied men who should answer the call.

While serving at Gallipoli he had had some narrow escapes. On one occasion a shot had gone through his helmet and just skimmed his head.

He was also wounded in late May or early June 1915, but we do not know details.

He was killed in action at Sanni-I-Yat, Mesopotamia on 20th April 1916. Initially he was reported wounded, then missing and finally presumed killed.

He was first posted as ‘Missing’ on the 20th April 1916. In April 1917, after several months of his being classed as missing, the Uttoxeter Advertiser published the following on 18th April 1917:


Pte. J.J.W. Ambrose, who before volunteering for service was a lamplighter at Uttoxeter, has been amongst the “missing” for some months, but he is now reported as having been killed in action at Sanni-I-Yat on April 20, 1916. Previous to going to Mesopotamia he was in the fighting at the Dardanelles. He was a married man and his wife resides at the Wharf

On the 19th April 1917 Harriet wife wrote to the North Staffordshire Regiment, sending a newspaper cutting and asking for more information about what had happened to him. It seems likely that the cutting was the above short article. John’s Pension Records contains a copy of the reply that they sent:

North Staffs Regt.

9591/16959/N.S.

Infantry Record Office,

No.6 District,

Lichfield,

21st. Apl.1917.

Madam,

In reply to your letter of the 19th. Inst. Regarding No.16959 Pte. J&J.W.Ambrose, 7th.North Staffs. Regt., I regret that the newspaper cutting you enclosed should have caused you so much anxiety.

No further information regarding your husband has been received in this Office, and the matter has been referred to the War Office for investigation.

The newspaper cutting xxxx forwarded to xxxxe.

Further information will at once be rxxxxx you.

I am

Madam

Your obedient Servant,

Capt for Col.

Officer i/c Infantry Records

No.6 District

Mrs. H.T.Ambrose,

16 Cheadle Road,

Wharf,

Uttoxeter.

On 29th November 1917 a letter was sent from the No. 2 Infantry Records department to the Regimental Paymaster at Lichfield, asking for details of any person drawing a separation allowance related to John. This letter carries a handwritten annotation, “Killed in Action. Previously Missing”. This was the first step in changing over from a separation allowance to a widow’s pension.

The response indicated that Henrietta Ambrose had been receiving a Separation Allowance Pension of 24/2 weekly. Puzzlingly it stated that the last date to which allowances had been paid was 8.7.17 (of 24/6 weekly). It is not clear what had been happening since that date.

Then, in December 1917 she received another official notification and this time it said that he had been killed in action in Mesopotamia on April 20th, 1916.

Early in 1919 Henrietta was contacted and asked to supply the names and addresses of John’s living relatives. This was required to enable the War Office to identify John’s next-of-kin and to issue his medals, memorial plaque and memorial scroll to the right person. Her response listed the following:


Degree of relationship

Name in full of every relative now living in each degree enquired for

Address in full of each surviving relative opposite his or her name

Widow of the Soldier

 Henrietta Shigsley Ambrose

16 Cheadle Road, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire

Children of the Soldier and dates of their births

John William March 17/1910

Frederick George Oct 21st 191x

Father of the Soldier

George Ambrose

Burton Terrace, Uttoxeter

Mother of the Soldier

Annie Ambrose

Burton Terrace, Uttoxeter

Brothers of the Soldier

Full blood

Thomas George

Age

Burton Terrace, Uttoxeter

16

Half Blood Sister

Martha Alice

31

Burton Terrace, Uttoxeter

Sisters of the Soldier

Full Blood

Mary Ann

23

Burton Terrace, Uttoxeter

Ann E. Bentley

xx

3 Dove Bank Uttoxeter

Half Blood

Gertured [sic] Mable

24

Address not know [sic]


Beatrice Ethe [sic]

21

Address not know [sic]

It was normal practice for the War Office to request a receipt when issuing the medals, memorial plaque and memorial scroll. Henrietta’s response to this request was stored in his Pension folder. It was written in her hand on 4th December 1919 and received by the Infantry Records Office at Lichfield on 6th December:


To the Officer in Charge of Records

Sir,

I am sorry I have not acknowledged this before but one of my children was very ill when it came & I layed it by & forgot it.

Yours obediently

H J Ambrose

16 Cheadle Road

Uttoxeter

John has no known grave and is commemorated on Panel 34 of the Basra Memorial in what was Mesopotamia (now Iraq).

John was awarded the 1915 Start, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.